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But the gist is this: Scoble was alpha testing a program being developed by Plaxo (a forerunner of social networks as we know them today) called Plaxo Pulse.  The particular feature he was testing was a script which logged onto his Facebook account, and then rapidly browsed through his friends, profile-by-profile, collecting -- or, "scraping" -- their names, birthdays, and e-mail addresses.  (For more on scraping, see this recent article in Wired).  This data was to be imported into Plaxo to help populate a user's address book there.  Facebook picked up on the superhuman speed at which the profiles were being accessed, and promptly deactivated Scoble's account while notifying him he had violated Facebook's Terms of Use.


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  • http://tropophilia.wordpress.com/ taylora412

    Jrod– I’m going to have to jump in here and disagree, simply because I think the business card analogy is a false parallel to draw here. The fact is, a facebook profile is much more than a business card–in all the best and worst ways. Sure I might not mind Scoble or others being able to freely port my contact info or carefully chosen identifying data (a la a business card, where every detail, logo, affiliation is carefully chosen) into whatever app he pleases…but what about more sensitive things like who I’m dating, what my political and religious beliefs are, even what books I like and music I listen to? I would never put that info on a business card to hand out to people I don’t know…and many on facebook likely go to far with how liberally they share personal information, photos etc (remember all of those lectures from career services types on how our future employers would parse our facebook accounts?). I agree that name, contact info, etc is different…but as of now there’s no differentiation (to Scoble, on facebook, etc) between my email address and my relationship status. I find that a little anxiety-inducing.

  • http://tropophilia.wordpress.com/ taylora412

    Jrod– I’m going to have to jump in here and disagree, simply because I think the business card analogy is a false parallel to draw here. The fact is, a facebook profile is much more than a business card–in all the best and worst ways. Sure I might not mind Scoble or others being able to freely port my contact info or carefully chosen identifying data (a la a business card, where every detail, logo, affiliation is carefully chosen) into whatever app he pleases…but what about more sensitive things like who I’m dating, what my political and religious beliefs are, even what books I like and music I listen to? I would never put that info on a business card to hand out to people I don’t know…and many on facebook likely go to far with how liberally they share personal information, photos etc (remember all of those lectures from career services types on how our future employers would parse our facebook accounts?). I agree that name, contact info, etc is different…but as of now there’s no differentiation (to Scoble, on facebook, etc) between my email address and my relationship status. I find that a little anxiety-inducing.

  • http://jarredtaylor.com Jarred Taylor

    I completely agree with your concerns. That’s why I think Facebook itself must continue to be vigilant in cracking down on scraping, while at the same time providing a legitimate means of exporting the information. And you are absolutely right that Facebook must give users the privacy controls necessary to limit how much information Facebook can allow others to export about them. This is similar to the News Feed privacy controls… you control what sorts of information, or “stories,” are exportable. So if I want my full profile to be exportable, I can have that; if you want only your name, picture, and e-mail address to be exportable, you can have that. Basically, the metaphor is that Facebook allows you to design the “business card” that you’re going to let other people keep (and, potentially, pass on to others). My point is that if Facebook doesn’t find a way to export the information itself, then people will continue to steal that information illicitly.

    The one counterpoint I will make is this. I know it is uncomfortable to think that someone could either scrape or download information that wouldn’t fit into my first “business card” metaphor – relationship details, drunken photos, etc. But that person can ALWAYS publicize that information manually. I could go to your profile, take a screen shot, and post it on this blog. That’s why the whole new concept of “friending” in the social network context is dangerous. Is someone enough of a “friend”, do you trust them enough, to let them have access to that information even privately? The more interconnected the web becomes, the more we have to be careful about what we put online, even if it is behind very carefully designed privacy controls.

  • http://www.tropophilia.com Jarred

    I completely agree with your concerns. That’s why I think Facebook itself must continue to be vigilant in cracking down on scraping, while at the same time providing a legitimate means of exporting the information. And you are absolutely right that Facebook must give users the privacy controls necessary to limit how much information Facebook can allow others to export about them. This is similar to the News Feed privacy controls… you control what sorts of information, or “stories,” are exportable. So if I want my full profile to be exportable, I can have that; if you want only your name, picture, and e-mail address to be exportable, you can have that. Basically, the metaphor is that Facebook allows you to design the “business card” that you’re going to let other people keep (and, potentially, pass on to others). My point is that if Facebook doesn’t find a way to export the information itself, then people will continue to steal that information illicitly.

    The one counterpoint I will make is this. I know it is uncomfortable to think that someone could either scrape or download information that wouldn’t fit into my first “business card” metaphor – relationship details, drunken photos, etc. But that person can ALWAYS publicize that information manually. I could go to your profile, take a screen shot, and post it on this blog. That’s why the whole new concept of “friending” in the social network context is dangerous. Is someone enough of a “friend”, do you trust them enough, to let them have access to that information even privately? The more interconnected the web becomes, the more we have to be careful about what we put online, even if it is behind very carefully designed privacy controls.

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